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I met C.N. Yang when I was a graduate student Teaching Assistant in 1974. He was personable and very concerned and supportive of all of us young aspiring physicists. I'm sad to hear of his passing.

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Thank you Jay. I would be curious on why you oppose the death penalty, as I do, indeed feel very strongly about it. Although I attend Quaker meeting, I am not a pacifist, not even a non interventionist, somewhere a little more hawkish than Obama and more dovish than Bush Jr. because I believe in the necessity of defending oneself, or others from bullies like Putin, in Ukraine.

And in the need for self protection, I have no compunctions about locking up people who would risk public safety, and it seems irrelevant what racial breakdown that results in.

But there is no public safety involved in executing a human being. It is not defense. It is vengeance, pure and simple. It denies the idea of redemption and that there is the light of God in even the worst of us. I am not particularly a Christian, but it seems the antithesis of what Christ taught.

I have no problem with prisoners living a spartan life and compelled to be useful and productive. After all penitentiaries are for penance. We have an ongoing prison ministry in our Meeting, and it always humbles me, because I think, there but by the grace of God go I.

As to Benjamin Franklin, one interesting aspect of him is that a younger version owned slaves but then later he was the leader of the Pennsylvania abolitionists. He also was a Deist, as was Jefferson and Madison, which is a belief in God within the confines of natural law and a denial of omnipotence and miracles.

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