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jaybrown's avatar

Many appear to believe that Democrats deserve Trump because of what they said about Republicans. I disagree. No one deserves Trump. Least of all us conservative former-Republicans who are now politically homeless and a vanishing breed.

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I see the sins of the parties as somewhat different.

I am not familiar enough with Bork, but attended to Kavanaugh and Thomas who were attacked for alleged sexual improprieties, I see those as excesses of what came to be "me too", where unprovable allegations can be weaponized. The worst of the 'me too' ( and not all is bad, it is good the Weinstein got his comeuppance) is about, no sin or youthful indiscretion is ever redeemable and an allegation is a fact.

In the less partisan times of Bork it is notable that 6 Rs voted against him and 2 Dems voted for him, whereas with Kavanaugh only one senator, Joe Manchin went against party lines (Murkowski abstained).

Now the sins of the Rs with Garland was not that they besmirched his dignity, but that they channeled Machiavelli in an early iteration of what now is Trump's full on embrace of the advice of the Florentine philosopher - might makes right, the ends justify the means.

A difference is that the Dems did approve the following nominee Kennedy who was confirmed on a 97-0 vote. But the Rs on Garland were simply going to deny Obama any choice of justice simply because they could. We see something similar in Donald Trump exhorting Texas, Indiana, to redistrict in mid census restyle, a new form of power grab. That we have no norms about fairness and that we respect the wishes of the founders is what is at issue.

It seems reasonable that if the opposition holds the majority in the Senate they could veto the occasional choice on ideological grounds, which might fit Bork more than Thomas or Kavanaugh. If the Dems nominated a far left justice I wouldn't deny the Rs in power a rejection. My problem is using the approval process to just obliterate the founder's intention that a president gets to choose a justice, essentially rewriting how our system has worked.

There is an older conservative value about how men are to act, not in the service of raw power but with some deference and magnanimity and I see it clearly in Trump's instigation of the redistricting, where the already questionable edge the party had on gaming the system is pushed to an extreme and partisanship becomes more and more the coin of the realm. I see Garland as an earlier iteration of that.

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